I’ve got an “ID” from about five or six years ago. I’ve actually never tried it in reef or beachbreaks (I pretty much only surf points) but it’s worked really well for me. It’s 7’8" so it’s got a great glide to it but it turns as well or better than my 7’4"s and 7’5". The nose is certainly narrower and the wide point is farther back. The “ID” might also have more nose rocker but otherwise the volume distribution and foils seem very similar to a more standard pointbreaker. Overall the ride seems pretty similar to a more standard template albeit I’m actually riding a longer board that surfs like one of the shorter ones.
I’ll try to post a couple of pics of the two boards side by side if I can figure out the new formatting…
GL said the name “Id” comes from psychology (ala Freud) as in “id”, “ego”, “super-ego”. Not sure of the surf connection there but maybe since the “id” is the unrestrained impulse, you can turn the board whenever and wherever your “impulse” dictates?
The ID looks like a fun board. I’d like to try one. I wonder how a 7’ one would go?
There is a picture of that board on GL’s website under “Colorama 2008”. I think it’s the last board on that page. It actually looks kinda “pig-ish”. I also heard from Flo that the same board is for sale at Shelter Surf shop in L.B. (at least it was last weekend).
Nico - posting pics - use the “insert/edit image” button that looks like a tree - not the camera one. Then cut and paste the “direct link” (second option on Photobucket) not the old way of using [IMG] (last option).
Does anyone change fin positions based upon the conditions or do you find that each hull has its perfect spot? I keep noticing my hull works best in all conditions with the fin at a certain spot…did i just find the g (liddle) spot?
In my youth, I would bring at least three different fins, change to notched positions on a board (per fin) with the tide and swell change. When I changed fins, such as 9.0 to 9.2, it was like riding another board altogether. I would do this 4-6 times per session. Very anal, I know.
Even now, each of my boards, as do most hullers, have notches on the top of the box, that place the different fins in tried workable positions. Try moving the fin and see how it feels. There is a post here on Sways that talks about this very subject. I’m sure that someone reading this post can direct you to that post. Good luck!
Here is my little Liddle quiver. From the top: 7’8" Hawakini, 6’11" smoothie and 6’6" smoothie. Only surfed the 7’8" a few times. The 6’11" gets lots of time in the water at the local points and I pretty much only surf the 6’6" at the beachbreaks. I have sold a few other boards and I would like to get another hull, maybe somthing that has a bit fuller template. I am thinking a really bladed out one in the seven foot range or somthing like that gray one that was just posted, that thing got me thinking. Thoughts?
Middles was great fun yesterday on the 6’11", just a gorgeous day.
a friend got a 7’2" id -his first hull ever.said it was the best board he has ever had.he commented" no wonder you love these boards. i’ve been watching you all these years on those “weird” boards, but now i get it." he is a goofy footer and surfs that thing in right hand points, as well as the local reefs and beach breaks…
i bought a 6’10 from a friend who used to ride a 7’0 he loves - it used to be the bread and butter driver until he switched up to the full template 6’3 exactly like the grey one you are referring too above. he rips them all. flat + wide + knife rails = skiddy mcspeed pantaloons! i do a 6’8 a 6’6 and a 6’2 - all Klaus Jones Hulls - extremely fun boards!!! the 6’6 is probably the most beautiful ride i have ever had - Klaus made it in 05 for himself - marshmallow dream machine
dude KP! your boards may not have any wax or color on them when you get them back …that Wilderness peg up front is a step away from the door …WATCH IT!
Are these the boards KP lent for the art show in Hullywood?
Man, so many of them. I hope that he insured them, but even so, they are irreplaceable. The only place those boards should go, in the future, is the Heritage Surfing Museum in San Clemente. They could do a Hull History up right with KP’s collection.
Man, I love that Marshmallow Dream(cream) Machine. Is it the one that I saw you crowd riding( insanely dropping into a group of three or more) at Malibu over this past summer?
just got out of the water from trestles again, it was quite good. I met a guy named Tim who lives here in San Clem as well… he was on a spanken new 8’6" Liddle with a big old round nose. He told me it was the last one that Greg is going to shape at that length and it was the first time he surfed it. Very smooth and catching a ton of waves, he knew his way around hulls. I was on the 6’11" again and to be honest I wish I had more board, as the tide filled in the laps got longer and before I knew it I was noddle armed.
So I think I need to find a full figured 7’4" and then a short fat one.
Anyone know how to tell the differance between an “inbetweener” and a “m3p”?
in betweener has a tad more rocker. go for a 7’4" full on point breaker. the mp3 is a solid board-fast and versatile. i have a similar board from way back and it was probably the fastest board i had…could surf it in anything…think MP at kirra. however, if you are surfing where you saw tim, get a pointbreaker…
The inbetweener is a mix of a Hawaiikine and a pointbreaker. Made for varying conditions. The m3p is based on a Michael Peterson type board, smaller to fit into mre beachbreaky type reef waves, think SD beach breaks. Talk to Greg regarding a new board, he’ll dial you in.
My last custom was a fuller bladed 7’6" that I love, but it likes bigger perfect conditions. I have picked a few older used beaters in the last 6 months that have been morein the 7’ ish range. 2 of then have fuller wider templates, and I love them, especially one I posted on a short bit back (October) I call it “Don Panson” because it’s about 23 wide. Mijknaks is also really happy with his recent 7’1".
Thanks for the advice all. I am trying to figure out what my 6’6" and 6’11" are so I can have a point of reference. I was looking at Gregs site and I guess I need to get the tape messure out to figure out what they are. Both will go in beachbreaks but things get sketchy on the larger of the two when it gets hollow and head high.
Yeah I want a wide one. I need to sell this Mandala that is rotting in my garage if I am going to get a new one though.
Real S-rails, turned up nose and yes real hard in the tail. The first one is my second hull that I acquired from a HS buddies father in the 80’s. It has been one of my favorite rides for almost 20 years.
