I plan on doing a test first but, has anyone done it?
Resin Research CE resin.
I’d like to:
1- Lam the bottom
2- Spray the rail
3- Lam the deck wrapping past the spray onto clean epoxy
Obviously, the concern is adhesion. Anyone tried it?
i havent tried i with epoxy but the stuff ive seen done on poly didnt last long
once there was a ding on the board you could just peel the glass right off the board
i wouldnt try it
I’ve done it with Kinetix epoxy without any issue. Mind you, the boards aren’t very old, so who knows how they will go down the track. I used the 3M Vinyl paint rattle can, which is meant to adhere well to plastic.
I guess the other option is to use the UPOL like Resinhead suggests. That’s probably the smarter way to go about it…
I just got to thinking… People lam over a sprayed blank all the time with no issues. Why not between lam layers?
I have been planning to try something similar.
For epoxy laminating/hotcoat resin, I am going to try/test the cheaper white Krylon “epoxy” appliance paint first. If that works, I will try some of the more expensive colored epoxy spray paints on the market.
If you try this, let us know how it turns out.
I will.
I want to use this paint: http://www.montana-cans.com/products/Cans/Montana_GOLD/Montana_GOLD_400ml/61
There are sooooo many cool colors!
OP,
Why complicate things? Painting between layers is just seems asking for trouble. I wouldn't even consider it even if someone here said they were doing it successfully. But hey that's just me.
Yah, I think you’re right. I’m leaning that way…
Maybe I just needed to put it out there…
I already have a can of UPOL so I will go that way. I wish I had a sprayer so I could do some of that Poly spray finish stuff.
I would be concerned about laminating over an “acrylic” based paint with epoxy resin too.
However, I am willing to test an “epoxy” based paint between “epoxy resin” layers. I can test easily enough on a piece of 1" x 6" wood and stress the hell out of it.
I could be very wrong. But I feel that epoxy paint (tack-free but not cured) will be similar enough chemically to bond well with epoxy resin. If so, that will give me some valuable new options.
DID SOMEONE SAY UPOL??
UPOL, UPOL, UPOL.
Always insist on quality 3M products.
Why not just roll the board in dirt between lams....probably adhere better.
Limited color palette…
especially white.
Hi Chris -
Krylon makes a type of rattle can paint called "H2O." It's water based and has been used successfully on foam for sure - I don't know about between lams.
I've used a light spray of thinned tempera on a small graphic between layers with no problems.
The problem with most rattle can paints, including "Epoxy" paints, is that they are loaded with solvents that often are not compatable with surfboard resins. Your best bet is to glass a scrap chunk of foam, spray it with your paint, glass over it and leave a length of dry cloth hanging off the edge - a 'pull tab' if you will.
Give it a try. If it works, make sure you use the same brand and type of paint on your board project. There is a diverse assortment of paints at most hardware stores and even among the same brand, formulas vary.
If all else fails you still have the dirt option.
By all means try it, but keep in mind that most “epoxy” rattle cans aren’t really epoxy (it’s just used as a marketing term) and so most likely won’t be chemically similar to epoxy surfboard resin. From what I’ve been told, the only real epoxy rattle cans are pricey and have to be used in one go, due to the two components mixing. That said, you should be able to easily find a true 2-part epoxy paint that can be mixed like normal and applied with a brush.
As I mentioned earlier, I have three boards that I sprayed the rails with 3M Vinyl Paint between lamination layers. My longboard has been in the water since April without any issues. The two other shortboards are much newer, but no issues so far.
Cheers
Paul
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As I mentioned earlier, I have three boards that I sprayed the rails with 3M Vinyl Paint between lamination layers. My longboard has been in the water since April without any issues.Cheers
Paul
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See....Another satisified customer...
When reaching for quality...only use quality 3M products!
Does 3M make UPOL?
If so, I can’t find it.
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From what I've been told, the only real epoxy rattle cans are pricey and have to be used in one go, due to the two components mixing. That said, you should be able to easily find a true 2-part epoxy paint that can be mixed like normal and applied with a brush.
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I need the epoxy paint in aerosol spray cans.
The Krylon site says the appliance spray epoxy is:
* Scrubbable epoxy resins
Howzit resinhead,I don't think spraying between layers is a good thing no matter what kind of paint is used. When you spray on a weave texture and it has been taped off I don't think you will end up with a clean and crisp edge on the paint. Another thing to consider is how the tape will adhere to the tacky lam resin and then what it leaves on the lammed glass when the tape is pulled. I think there is more to consider than just the type of paint used. just my 2 cents. Aloha,Kokua
Go ahead you’ll be fine. Over the years I’ve seen some of the best cover up work sprayed on Foam. Lam and hotcoat. Poly or Epoxy is fine. Its using the right paint. Liqutex paint in the metal tubes. The best Liqutex thinned with some water or alcohol. You can get at any art supply. I would say I’ve seen it done hundreds of times. I’ve had to fine sand or polish many a black rail band that was covering a case of crystallization. I have done Pinlines on a Lammed board then hoatcoating. Good luck
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I plan on doing a test first but, has anyone done it?
Resin Research CE resin.
I'd like to:
1- Lam the bottom
2- Spray the rail
3- Lam the deck wrapping past the spray onto clean epoxy
Obviously, the concern is adhesion. Anyone tried it?
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Chris...what is your goal? what are you after? ...I think you are headed for problems.....How can we tape Lam resin???
There's lot's of options. Resin and paint always causes wierd stuff to happen. Paint the blank or paint after hot coat.....
...not saying you can't do it......
I would never paint over an epoxy lam and then hot coat or lam over that....Some rules are made to be broken...
Go for it.............Ray