I don’t know why I got so excited. It’s just another shmatte company.
Hang Ten is at Kohl’s, OP is at Walmart and judging from the
recycled Quicksilver and Birdwell styles that fill the Lightning Bolt
2011 catalog they’ll be in Target by the fall. A handful of collector wallhangers
and 8’ fun shapes aren’t going to hold a candle to Lopez and Russell at Uluwatu.
The shapers list in the seventies was like a hall of fame.
Wow...Such drama...!!!...
I dropped into this thread late, and am stunned by it all...
First and foremost: One quote from Gerry Lopez is always with me and has become one of my life's mottos...It goes something like this:"Whatever you do, do it the best. Even if it's only making a peanut butter sandwich, use the best bread and the best peanut butter. Then spread everything out like it's a piece of art."
Ken, what you have built is a stunningly beautiful board that presents the best aspirations of **all of us here at Swaylocks**...The skill and passion you put into that beauty are inspiring and represent Gerry's quote perfectly...Be proud, very proud...
Ken, I understand you wanting this to settle out, but I feel like saying something:
Having once been threatened to be sued over a surfboard, gives me a retrospective insight into the bullying actions these pricks pull...Pathetic is too generous a word...
To me, these quotes said it best:
**"Whenever many of us see the new "Lightning Bolt" trademark logo, all we will remember is the guy on the internet acting like a 4 year old, over a guy building a board in his garage. Way to represent."**
And:
**"His command of the written word says”Home schooled" all over it."**
J.P., if I were Gerry, I’d
be embarrassed how you represented the brand that HE made legendary…You sound (and write) like a thug…
Send in the cleaners...Indeed...
…Aloha…
From what I’ve heard (from a couple people) about Gerry Lopez and his SUP etiquette I’m not all that sure he would be embarassed.
I think these guys may have just one-upped the antics of the owners of the Evolution and Canyon brands. I hope for their sakes it’s not true that they’ve spent millions on this venture.
I'm glad it all worked out
peace
Kokua Howzit? What I SHOULD have said is; I want to be on HIS team!
This proves the thought, no matter the circumstances, You cant keep a good man down.
WILDOG LIVES!!!!
JP wrote:
or do you need some personal closure?
i just wanted to try to apologize to the guys that i felt i pissed off.
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No personal closure needed for me, I'm good. I just felt that the attack was at this community, not just Ken. You've apologized and that's cool. I look at Sway's as a collective of great artists and personalities that I want to learn from; you're included. As a successful business man myself, I actually in some ways empathize with your situation, that's why I elaborated.
Welcome to Sway's! If I ever need to be set right...please do so.
Sincerely,
Woody
lol................ya.............i'll.............ah............second that!
herb
Dear Kokua,
i deeply apologize for my insult.
as i said before i was not my right mind for my first statements to Kensurf,
second, but not an excuse i thought i was writing to kensurf directly, i am not savvy to this wholes chat forum thing. you and many others attacted the sheit out of me, i was trying to defend my self’s stupidity. for which i humbly apologize.
i never heard of swaylocks, i am now very impressed with the scene here and the learning and sharing enviroment, it makes me sick that i entered such a great thing with my finger in my ass.
i have never been more frustrated with a problem as i have been with trying to get shapers and board builders around the world to respect the Bolt and make them stop making them, people for them selves like Kensurf ok, but i have so many selling them, i lost it. i am sorry i took it out on Kensurf.
but thats not enough for some people here, yourself included.
my father and our family have been helping the Hawaiian people and surfing world since the 40’s. we were all born in Hawaii and my father and our family helped poor people and surfers my whole life growing up there. from Kui Lee to Rabbit Kekei, wally forsieth, woody brown, john kelly, george downing, steamboat and on and on, dont get me wrong i am not saying some birthright gives me the right to besmirch you or Kensurf or anyone. but i know respect.
for that i apologize again to everyone here, but thats not going to be enough for some i am sure.
Chris Hawk, Sam’s brother just passed from so many years of chemicals, we loved him, same with my mentor Ronald Patterson, Timmy’s dad. i can only say i am sorry for your personal pain. it sickens me that i have been so insensitive.
please accept my personal apologies.
our family had nothing growing up, i have been raised in what you might call poverty but i had surfing. so surfing and family and respect means allot to us, i have not had a better chance at success as with Lightning Bolt. everyone i have confronted about Bolt seems to feel its theres and the worlds, not something to be owned and exploited. thats why we make good stuff here in america not in china, and are tring to unite guys like reno rory gerry bk parrish jackie dunn and so forth. but everyone just give us shit when we defend it! Kensurf and swaylocks is a forum i admire so i will give in, i wont make a stink, but only one person here reched out and said ok you f@@cked up and apologized and good luck, everyone else is trying to put the Kapu on something they should be helping. ok i fk’d up,but even the meanest surfers i have ever known like buzzy trent or eddie rothman forgave trespasses, but here? NO? where is the Aloha?
this will be my last post.
i wish swaylocks Kensurf Kokua Mako JP and others the best in thier efforts to build boards and share thier experiments with each other.
very sorry again for my rudeness and ill words at the start, and yes my home schooling dosent make for easy reading
Good spirit to you and your fight Kokua, if you want i will have pops send you a book he wrote called Surfing and Health, it helped Chris O’Rourke and allot of other friends with the big C to stay as healthy as possible during the battle.
Shalom
Jonathan Paskowitz
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Lightning-Bolt,
You stood up and publicly apologized and aknowledged a certain, shall we say, mishandling of your first post. For whatever it's worth (probably not much, but here goes) you and the company you represent just went up a notch in my book.
That's exactly what I ask my kids and students to do when they mess up. Heck, that's what I hope I'm good enough to do when I screw up. Happens often enough.
Best of luck in your venture. Let us know how the boards are going when spirits are calm. There are a lot of us who are very into old boards and yes, even resurections of old boards, and would welcome it.
Cheers.
rothman grew up in a town i graduated from high school.....................bell,cali.
kokua graduated from huntingtonpark.................so did the hawks.
i hung out with big daddy's kids as well.
alot you don't know.
hope you do well on your ventures and next time,do your homework.
herb
hey Jon
please stick around and enjoy the show,,,
keep us informed of Lightningbolt's progress
are all the products to be made in USA?
Jonathan,
You dropped quite a few names in your last post. Several were quite meaningful to me personally. Ronald Patterson instructed me in the art of surfboard glassing, glassing on fins, sanding and glossing. This when he was with Wayne Land, at Burland Surfboards in La Jolla, circa 1958. I surfed with Ronald almost daily, for years at Windansea. You really stepped in it, however, when you called Buzzy Trent mean. I was a surfing and skin diving companion to Buzzy for many years. He had more aloha than most native hawaiians I've encountered. He was very generous, and posessed of a great sense of humor. He was a world class mans man, in my opinion. The best ''talk story guy'' I've ever sat down with. There are many thing I could say to describe Buzzy, but mean spirited is not one of them. I just want to present a counterpoint, to the readers, vis a vis your comment about Buzzy.
My friends. That was a sincere apology. I hope you all will accept it, move forward, and welcome JP aboard. I, for one, would love to know what he is up to. Because of his unique upbringing in a surfing lifestyle and his relationship with Bolt. I would like to say,“welcome aboard, Jon.” I hope you won’t be shy about posting.
Bill, you got to surf and dive with Buzzy Trent? F…ing unreal! Mike
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My friends. That was a sincere apology. I hope you all will accept it, move forward, and welcome JP aboard.
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TRUTH...
we've all been jackasses at some point. i doubt that any of us can say that we've ALWAYS owned up to it as humbly and thoroughly as JP did here... let it die...
welcome aboard JP, hope you will post some of the stuff that you guys are working on.
Howzit tblank,I am not only alive but I am very protective of this website and my fellow members and I will not stand by and watch somebody threaten one of us. I may live in Az these days but one thing I learned rom living in Hawaii all those years was to watch my brother's backs and be there for them when they needed help. Herb and I were talking today and he brought up the fact that when we first joined Sways there might have been 25 - 50 members and now we are in the thousands which just shows what a great site this is and there is strength in numbers. Aloha,Kokua
Heard Hynson's son call him "thunderbolt" one night. Does that count?
Howzit LB,Now you are talking like a real Swayguy and apology accepted and like Herb said I grew up with the Hawk brothers from the age of 8 and also was friends with Fast Eddie since he is from Bell where Herb is from. We welcome people who join this site with open arms when they usually join it is because they are interested in learning how to build boards since we have a membership that has more real board builders than any other web site on the internet. You have joined a very special group f people who are the nicest guys in the surfing world but we protect this site and it's members and since you seem to now realize who we are then you are also welcomed with open arms and we will watch your back since there are thousands of us out there. You should take some timeand look at someof the boars that members have made and some have done really nice on their first board. Maybe now that you are one of us you may even decide to build your own boards and we are here to help you through the process. But you do have to think about what you say about people since now Bill T seems to be a bit upset about Buzzy and I knew Buzzy and that man was one of a kind and a great story teller. Aloha,Kokua
Howzit Bill, I met Buzzy in Hawaii many years after you knew him and I must say he was a real character ( Spelling) and talking story with him was a joy to say the least and I never saw him say a mean word or do a mean act of any kind. He was a real guy who they broke the mold after he was born,RIP Buzzy. Aloha,Kokua
Mike,
I cut my teeth on the early 50's Bud Brown surf movies. Buzzy was a star of those early films, along with George Downing, Woody Brown, Jim Fisher, and the Hoffmans. He was larger than life, riding really big Makaha. He made a powerful impression on 13 year old me. I met him when I was 22, in 1963. Four years later He was inviting me to go diving and surfing with him. It was real heady stuff to be accepted into his inner circle. Buzzy was in his late 30's then, and still had a 28 inch waist! He was a real specimen! His aloha was boundless. Once or twice per week, he would have me over for dinner, and story telling afterwards. He and I shared a lot of friends in common, so had lots of stories and adventures to talk about. I'm glad you had an opportunity to get to know him. He was one of the most stand up guys I've ever known. Also one of the funniest too. I'm sure you and I heard some of the same stories.
Hey Jon,
I've been watching this with great interest. You are part of surfing history along with heaps of others here.
I welcome you to this brotherhood (and occasional sisterhood) with welcome arms.
Your knowledge and experience are valuable to us.
From the guy attempting his first board to someone who has a lifetime of boards under their belts.
The rewards from sharing that experience are immeasurable.
Hicksy