Stupid question about hulls

Yeah I know I should maybe know this already, but as I’m mostly self-taught aside from garnering my knowledge from here I figured I’d ask since I don’t really know…

What exactly defines a board as a “hull” over a regular board. I’ve tried a little googling but mostly what I get is tomo’s “Modern Planing Hulls” which aren’t exactly what I’m talking about (at least I don’t think). 

I did find this image of a Paul Gross displacement hull board (not sure how this is a displacement hull since it doesn’t really have gunnals or a pocket for air)

The main thing I notice about this board over a normal board is the hard-upturned rails and nose - is this what defines a “hull” style board?

Again, forgive me, I know it’s a stupid question but you gotta ask them at least once, right?

A hull I believe is a “displacement hull”, or a convex bottom…basically an upside down tear drop from nose to tail… but I geuss any bottom is a “planing hull.” Atleast that’s what a hardcore kid at a surf shop told me. I think a hull displaces water - according to what the man said. So it kinda sucks the board into the water more…anyone?

Look at mr Gross’s board, it has a subtle convex bottom…I would bet it has the roll more by rails fading to almost zero in tail…

I geuss when I asked the kid what a displacement hull was - I didnt know either. But I think it’s dumb - not knowing.
Yes, the bottom rail under nose is almost “dished”, but that I think fades gradually to zero out the tail…im not totally sure, but that’s what I was thinking.

Your questions answered in detail:

http://www.liddlesurfboards.com/hulldiscussion.html

 

Not really. More like knifey, 50/50 rails.

       Well described.

Is this definition a good place to start?

 

keithmelville's picture Submitted by keithmelville on Thu, 2005-01-20 19:00

 

a hull is a egg shaped board with pinched round rails and a slightly convex bottom, S-deck and usually a single, high aspect, thinly foiled flex fin.

Nice! Great example of the “razor rail” 

a displacement hull is a convexed bottom which moves through water displacing upwards. Basically it was designed for boats with heavy loads to plane easier at slow speeds. 

6'10 Vaquero from Mollusk Surf Shop on Vimeo.

Nice video, thanks Zac!

That is SUCH a good video!!!  Marc hits all the design features in 3 or four sentences then struts his stuff with the Skill.  Amazing…

Love it!!! Rocker? Who needs rocker?

That is one nice board - Marc Andreini shaped ! Also, an excellent setup and shaping style. The vid I watched atleast three times. His description of his model, and his planing techniques are mind boggling ! I’ll take another look.ty for sharing.-Jim

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That little old hull meister Clark looks even better wet!!!

Great Video, great shaper. Awesome teacher.