the fastest 3 to 4 foot point break surfboard on the planet

I would like the shapers of sway locks to help me design and build my self a surf board 6 ft long that rockets down the line on my local 3 to 4 ft point break so fast that my ears flap!

I want you to contribute by advising me with dimensions fin size and shape finish glassing weight etc and theory.

I don’t care too much for maneuverability just crazy out of control speed.

I plan on starting the project and posting photos two weeks from [today 11/1/2012].

My height is 6’5’’ weight is 100kg and a very fit handy surfer with 25 years of experience.

Only one man has the key you seek , The Lord of Trim ,  at times nothing but an orange blur…

Though he shall go unnamed , forever banished from this kingdom.

Beware the quest for speed Master Skiper for it is a powerful and heady elixer , dangerous in the wrong hands and known to drive men crazy !!

 

 "Old Balsa Twinfin" AKA Simmons Hydrodynamic Surfboard

This board is very similar to one of the boards in the SHF collection.

 The dimensions of the SHF board are:

Width: 23.5 in
Length: 10.6667 ft
Thickness: 2.75 in
Nose: 19.0 in
Tail: 20.25 in
Weight: 40 lb

 

RK riding a contemporary reproduction.

 

 

 

 

Wowie

what a great picture

who is rk and did he get barreled off his head on that wave?

nice!

 

I wonder if anyone has made and ridden anything full size like that recently, surpose you just set the rail and hold tight for as long as you can in a straight line.

The photo on the link was a single fin, never thought Simmons was into them as well.

I have a photo in a book of a Tom Blake board twin fin with a deep concave nose to tail which might work up a fair bit of speed that looks similar.IAppreciate all your input thanks.

The designs varied a bit from board to board.  Some were single fins, some twin fins.  Some were kind of pointy at the nose, some more rounded.  I've seen a couple that were at least 10 feet long and roughly 24" wide.  I'd 'guesstimate' the tail width at 20"-21", tailblock at 18" or so and nose at around 18"-20".  Not sure where you're located - the Surfing Heritage Museum has at least one in there.  One sold at auction a couple of years back.  I think Roger Kelly posted some pics somewhere on Swaylocks. 

http://www.hawaiiansurfauction.com/peekoftheweek/peekoftheweek22.html

I would think that weight played a big part in maintaining momentum once the rider got one going at full speed.  In a 3-4' point wave, that might have played a huge role.

Hard to say if a guy on a shortboard squirting a radical vertical maneuver generates a quicker burst of speed for a moment than a huge board in full trim heading down the line.  I guess that point will always be argued.

My vote is for a big longboard if any sort of average speed is measured over distance via GPS or radar gun.

 

What were the dimentions of those old balsa twin fins ? [you didn’t have my full attention when I first read your post I was teasing the cat at the same time] I once saw footage of an old board like that in an old fizzy grainy movie 

Hi Cuttlefish -

I can't really make any claims on that although my bellyboard does seem pretty fast either with FCS curved fins or a hoop fin.  The dimensions are 5'10" X 24" with 22" tail and 19" tailblock.  The tail is flat with little rocker.  The rails are kind of a flat/hourglass kind of shape that might help generate speed.

The thickness is aft of center as that is where my weight seems concentrated.  The deck is concaved.

In any case, I'm happy to provide any other details if anyone is interested.  The thing is trashed - will likely either get taken to the landfill or stripped and reshaped at some point.  I think there's enough foam left to get something fun out of it.

 


The thing is balsa is out of my budget for a board that big, I am totally with you about the speed of them.

6’ Alaia?

 

The old timers used to go pretty damn fast 

at places like Malibu 

on those full sized balsa Simmons boards.  

If you can get around the concept of vertical surfing and cutbacks, those big heavy boards with flat rockers, wide ass tails, and twin keels appear to have been hauling ass and couldn't be stopped. 

 

What about one of your hoop finned prone boards John?

Yea the piece of ply wood is fast!

Surfed it on the same point break as mentioned yesterday, came off at a flat out velocity involuntary yousing my face to slow down felt like an eye wash with a fire hose. SO MUCH FUN !

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'' ...do you care to elaborate?''

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No.

then again, I’ve never seen anybody go faster than this on a 4 foot wave:

[video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QChaA5uVkic]

Ha,ha,ha, your a funny man Bill

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.... do you think the back of the board should be v or flat ?

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Flat, rail to rail.

I think a wide round nose with kind of flipped up rails would help with getting a straighter rail curve and have seen a couple of fishes with a sort of square nose to make the rail straighter still, am I on the right track ?

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'' ... am I on the right track?''

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No.

No is a good answer but do you care to elaborate?

 

Ok how pointed should the nose be and how much rail curve and were to distribute the curve?