not all “Tailors” are up to scratch
Solisitors for surfboard distribution
Mitch - for those of us who are interested, and for the reason that you have pushed on the subject so profusely, lay down the numbers of your offer. You might as well be as tranparent as you are persistent**. **
…gone surfing…unavailable for comment
You want numbers ?
Sure… I can make you a 6’4 shortboard for $### or a 7’6 MiniMal for $###
(sanded finish, your logo, fin plugs and leash cup included, or fin box, packed ready to ship)
Maybe less, depending on the ammounts required.
Thats using 90% imported materials. and there would be a shipping fee, But again, If you bought enough, I would probably send them for free. but generally shipping costs about 5-10 per board (a container holds about 225-250 and cost about 1500-2000 to send)
Great shapes, Great Quality, great artwork I’ve never had a board returned, Never been told of any breakages, Have many repeat customers. I dont sell directly to the public or on ebay, only to shapers or shops.
I have cloth inlays, you can design and I will print and lam, around $## each, maybe less, wood veneer, pigments, swirls, stencil art, tape ups, Pin line art, air brush… all around ##$, maybe less. I will sign contracts insuring the delivery dates, quality, copywrite and confidentiality.
Also, I have no problem for anyone ordering boards, That want me to find anything else they need to help promote their product. Such as leashes, grips, bags, or even, , Branded plastic bags, stickers, bussiness cards , key rings, … whatever you need probably comes from china anyways, you may as well deal directly with the factory, and then either pass the savings on, or make a larger profit.
My website has some pics, i know its not great, I am updating soon, but check it out www.wideskysurfboard.com
Oh, I am not surrounded in secrecy, You can visit me, I will pay for a hotel, and food, pick you up from the airport etc
Then you can see the factory, how it works, my materials, the production methods etc
You can ask anything, call, fax, email, etc
If someone was deadset serious about ordering, I would give you refrences.
I am australian, I am very easy going, with fairly thick skin.
You can ask or say anything to me, I will answer politely as I can.
Hi Sickdog All the better if you make your rubber in your home state.
I respect anyone who can build anything START TO FINISH using their countries products.
Most dont.
Or buy at least some part of their product from overseas industry.
it could be their sowing machine, thread, ink, zippers, materials…
Disclaimer to the ladies of swaylocks: I do not know sickdog personaly, nor his wetsuits, nor that his one eyed man has cheese.
Excellent. Thank you for laying it out on the table face up. I respect you for that.
Therein lies the problem–equating accessories such as leashes and plugs with surfboards. No point at all in hand-making mass-market items like leashes when even the most discriminating surfer is well served by the standard product. Surfers (real ones) are unlike each other in at least as many ways as waves are unlike each other. So subjective are their desires, and so varied their abilities, that only a true, hand-shaped custom board can hope to approach the level of satisfaction they expect. Once a beginner gets off the rubber playthings that the surf “schools” herd them onto, anyone aspiring to advance is poorly served by purchasing even the finest of “off-the-rack” product.
sounds like bulshit to me. mitch makes to the shapers designs and the glassing looks to be high quality. all made polished ,packaged and shiped for the cost of my raw materials. its called the 21st century. fins 1/3 the cost of fcs wholesale.
its good to have him here just for a good deal on fins and grips. bypass the wholesalers. i like the imported goods thing
i think youll find most of the people bitching are retailers as they are cut out of the deal through online sales
todays retailers are dinosaurs they are the ones that put the screws on manufactures and fucked us all over big time just so they can get fat . fuck them i hope they all crash and burn. the backyarder will not be effected by imports as they have a specialized market of small order customs for friends in there surfing network
Let’s geta hot war going to stimulate the economy…oh wait, we did that and it didn’t work, but maybe it was the wrong country.
That’s what I’ve heard. Everything from surfboards to insulin. This sort of thing is killing people. Literally.
Hi DS
The main reason people go overseas to produce things, is that their Dollar buys more of the other countries dollar.
So efectivly everything is cheaper, not just labour, Things like rent, electricity, water etc are cheaper.
China is a good country to produce things in for many reasons apart from that,
Many of those little things you need to make anything, lets say surfboards for example, You can find here beeing made, sold directly to you from the manufacturer, So whilst I am importing cloth, resin and blanks, I can buy paint, tape, sandpaper, routers etc localy from the people who made it, not after 10 other people have added their two dollars which is what normally happens buy the time you go to the hardware store for some masking tape.
We pay our staff well, in retrospect to their dollar, They earn roughly the same ammount as a full time worker in my or your country, their salary buys just as many beers or cans of coke as it would if they did the same job in USA or OZ.
I have steered clear of selling directly to the public, and also from making the cheapest boards I could, I could use all chinese made materials and probably cut my costs in half.
Yes , It works on volume, I buy materials in volume and thus can make a profit on my current prices. I am happy to make a anyone a sample, They would have to buy it, and it is kind of expencive and its rather costly to send 1 board somewhere. But that isnt normally someones concern, sure they are paying 400 to 500 $ for a chinese board, but if they are seriously considering ordering volume, that doesnt mean a thing, but it does stop your customers calling me every day for a custom, or copy.
I would packaged so well it would never be damaged, and organise everything, door to door
PM me if anyone is interested.
Now I am probably giving to much information away, and will still get told to fuck off, so I will leave it there.
ok i will bite i was not going to get into this crap’
** you claim to be using material from aus& america**
like blanks from where?
like glass ??
like resin ??
** there is a bottom line here in aus for what you will pay for a blank no matter how many you order. i dont think aus blank manufacturers would kill there own industry just to feed a one off china operation.**
would be interested to know just what resin &glass you use as well
**oh &whilever your boards remain a cple years of the pace theres no prb,
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hey huie , u on skype tonight
Hi Huie
Are you just “biting” out of curiousity ?
but to aswer your questions,
Yes, I use imported products, I sometimes change brands, depending on availability and price,
most often I stick to big names.
As for blanks, I dont need to say who, your an aussie, you will know,
But, australian blank companies have set up here in china, taught chinese guys they mixes and supply them with the chemical and wood.
Think about how many (I dont know) drums of chemical you can fit into a container , you must be able to blow many thousands of blanks.
I dont think this is going anywhere,
You win.
At what price?
I couldn’t tell you the price but if you can’t beat them, beat them. Instead of going to China to manufacture goods how about buying Chinese made blanks, resin and cloth from your local distributor and manufacturing the boards in your own country.
Your regular resin and fibreglass purchases will be probably be missed by no one as half the suppliers in this industry are probably getting their “raw materials” from China in some form or another anyway. That’s if they are not already sending their stuff, selling their intellectual property, experience to China to begin with.
Don’t forget China has about a population of about one billion people half of whom are probably looking for work. That’s a lot of competition for a job which means only thing. Cheap labour. But cheap labour doens’t necessarily mean cheap “raw materials”. Not in the quality sense anyway. So use it to your advantage!
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SORRY… i think these boards are a dying breed? only begineers are buying them? i dont see many in the local shops anymore… THE FAD IS OVER get out quick! good luck
chuck: when it was time for me to jump to longboards ( age and weight) i really wanted one of your 4 fins… they were at the time state of the art in my book… i hesitated and grovelled on short boards about 5 years to long…you were gone by then… maybe some day we will re explore? bruce