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South central with palm tree’s… I spend my hard earned money in better places with …no brainless,uneducated, punks. There is NO EXCUSE !! for that kind of behavior. If that guy came back with a uzi I wouldn’t have benn suprised at all!! What a sorry excuse for humans…Why go to hawaii anyway??? There are much better places to get surf!! F*&K Aloha!!!

Well I can find this sort of behavior everywhere. Newport, Huntington, Lowers, Seal beach, Topanga canyon, Windansea, Rincon, Steamer Lane, It aint just in Hawaii. Hell at Silverstrands we got our car keyed bigtime and the aholes couldnt even confront us face to face.

This is why I surf the middle and inside section at Laniakea so I dont have to deal with idiots during contest season.

100% correct.

That’s why I too stay away from it all too, but geez inside Lani’s on a big day… that’s suicide in some peoples eyes you must be a duckdive master.

Why we think we can still believe in the duke it out in the parking lot mentality is so westside story. All I can say is remember Columbine, the remaking of those two maniacs by these surfbreak wolfpacks is only a handgun away…

this guy in the video was definitely off his rocker the way he dissed the water patrol and took on Kainoa McGee. It’s only going to be another skinny runt punk kid with gun loving parents that’s going to wake us all up to the real street scene we seem to forget about on the beach.

Security should have managed the situation better maybe even grabbed his butt and towed him in. The contest organizer has a lot to worry about because of the security presence and participation in the initial contact and if Kainoa was either part of or associated with the event. Remember what happened to Joel Tudor’s pop and Lance Hookano at Malibu? There’s alot of hungry lawyers and folks who want to get rid of the contest scene on the northshore.

The promoter has significant liability as does the City and State.

Hawaii’s already been sued/settled by some real idiots already, like the kid who got killed when he stuck his butt over the blow hole.

IIn the end there’s alot of aloha here in places if you look around enough you’ll find it.

any idea of when this went down? from the look of the circus atmosphere, it must have been last winter (i.e. it is too early for this now). oneula, when was the last bodyboarding contest at pipe? this didn’t make the papers??

the local guy doing the bashing on the beach is none other than kala alexander, self proclaimed leader of the kauai wolf pack. these guys are the eyes and ears and lawless enforcement of pipe and backdoor. i have heard crazy stories of violence inflicted by these guys. this young blonde kid isn’t the first, and it is sad to see how “out of it” he is. who in their right mind would sit on the beach after that? those other skinny guys laughing their asses off at his misfortune are sick themselves. what is this surfing world coming to? give a wave and a smile the next time you’re in the water to counteract this craziness. swalyocks users unite! save surfings soul!!

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if Kainoa was either part of or associated with the event.

it was a bodyboard contest, so kainoa was surely involved in the event somehow.

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There is no excuse for the kind of behavior exhibited in the video. I feel the water patrol had the responsibility to escort the surfer out of the contest area. Hopefully the thugs who were involved in the assault will someday get whats coming to them. Sure the guy was intruding on someone’s event, but did’nt deserve the pounding he recieved. Its ashamed that things like this happen and reflects what our sport has come to in some places.

look at the video closely, when the second fight starts

its because the Blonde Shithead is asking for his board back,

and the Hawaiian BadAsses are telling him to go away and forget about the board

or he’ll have his ass beat again.

Blonde shithead ignores their advice and gets beat!

However, that part of it was uncalled for.

In the end it was sad, but sometimes people get what they ask for,

and he was begging!

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That’s why I too stay away from it all too, but geez inside Lani’s on a big day… that’s suicide in some peoples eyes you must be a duckdive master.

Nah, I just know the wave well since its my backyard. I surf it up to 8+ and on a North theres 3 different takeoff zones. Most guys go straight to the outside peak but the ones I want just miss the outside and peak in the middle and lineup all the way through…and yeah IF you get caught its a MAJOR BUMMER!

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the local guy doing the bashing on the beach is none other than kala alexander, self proclaimed leader of the kauai wolf pack. these guys are the eyes and ears and lawless enforcement of pipe and backdoor. i have heard crazy stories of violence inflicted by these guys

Never heard of the guy but its no different than the crap that I grew up with in Hawaii. dumb

What kind of “sport” is this? Lucky theres still contests on the north shore with that type of stuff going on…one big lawsuit and just say aloha oe to all contests cause there wont be any.

I had to laugh at that one.It was more like a couple chicks in a catfight.The beatings I used to see in Hawaii were not the type things you walked away from,you were usually carried to the hospital. RB

Like what was said before… they will mess with the wrong person… and not only get there ass kicked, but may lose their lives in the process.

Listen to all you non Hawaiians, like me.

I just got back from 3 weeks on North Shore, I got good waves, and I got small crappy waves. I surfed Sunset, Gas Chambers, Rocky Pt…I also surfed Turtle Bay.

But what I didn’t get was my ass kicked. Look around to whats going on. If you see some dude that 250 lbs and not smiling back at you, don’t drop in on him. Don’t even paddle for the same wave, even if you have priority…because you don’t. I was out with Craig Chapman the other day, Very friendly fellow, cordial, good to talk to someone who knows a little about shaping surfboards too. But he is Mr. Sunset beach, he will drop in on you everytime, but it’s his break. Show respect for the culture, show respect to the locals.

You go over there thinking your going to dominate, you will get shut down. If you go over there looking for a few waves, you will find them. Be smart about it, do dawn patrols. Yesterday I paddle out at Sunset point at 6:00 am, just me and my buddy, we get it all to ourself. Now it’s not 3x overhead, but it is head high and just us. We had it for 1 hour to ourselves, so many wave, I couldn’t pick my nose.

That’s why you still go to Hawaii. Now I’m back in Rainy So Cal with no waves. I had a great trip and I’ll be back.

Jay

Howzit Mr.Clean, I hear you when you talk about the earlier years when the guy would have ended up in the hospital. The vibe has been a lot mellower over the last few years but there's always some jerk that can bring out the worst in people. I've Known Kala since he was about 2 and he's always been very respectful towards me. What a lot of people don't know is that Kala and his brother Kamalei have been orphans since their mother died in 1991 in our hundred year flood. That has had a very bad effect on Kala since he was very close to his mom and he still has a hard time dealing with her death.  

What did the guy think would happen by paddleing into a contest line-up, that the contestants would just say “sure take any waves you want, it’s only a contest”. This guy was either the dumbest person or just doesn’t know about respect, but I’m sure he gets the point now. I’ve seen a lot worst things happen and sounds like you have to, so this dumb haole is actually lucky that he was able to sit on the beach instead of going to the Kahuku hospital.

A few years back a person I know came over with a very good friend of mine to surf Hanalei for a week or so. Well this guy kept paddleing up the point and taking off in front of people. the problem was he couldn’t make the waves and just got in the way of the regulars. Well I got a call from Terry chung and Titus asking me to talk to the guy about not showing respect in the water. I tried to explain this to him but he had this I’m a bad ass attitude and wouldn’t listen, well the boys finally had a talk with him in the water and he left and has never returned to Kauai. On the other hand my very good friend showed respect, got plenty of waves, had a great time and is always welcome to come surf with us. Some people just don’t get it and probably never will, a little respect can go a long ways over here. Hey even I’ve sent a few dim wits to the beach in my time. Aloha,Kokua

Oh one more thing. It’s best to watch the Pipe contest’s from the beach. While the beating on the tape make me sick to how low our society has dropped. The Kauai conections is all part of the corporate surf culture trying to protect their riders at spots like Pipe. There on the corporate payroll to do just that, kick the shit out of guys that get in the way of the team riders. They hang out in the Volcom, or Quick Silver house watching Pipe, waiting for violations in surf protocol. It can work against the team guys too, I heard that some team guy insulted one of the “protectors” and wouldn’t apologize. The “protector” wanted a new board for pain and suffering inflicted by the verbal abuse of the young pro. Young pro refused to pay: protectors say that next year he is not invited to surf the North Shore. It was last heard that young pro was seen paying “protector” 4 new boards for pain and suffering inflicted by vicious young pros loose tougue.

Howzit resinhead, Good example, the irony of your story is that if the surfer had not insulted the enforcer or had apoligized and shown some true respect he could have made a friend for life instead of making an enemy and having to pay the tax as we call it. Actually the guy is fairly lucky since his sponsor will probably pay for the boards and he didn’t end up as fertilzer in a pineapple field. Aloha,Kokua

Howzit death, The problem there would be that the extended family culture in Hawaii would result in all his cuzs going after the guy and then the real ugliness would begin. Now if the guy killed a hawaiian and was sent to prison he wouldn't last a week in OCCC before he was dead. Aloha,Kokua

Jay,

Well said can’t agree more. I have been going over there for years now, my best friend lives over there up in Pupakea Heights (hope I spelled that right if not sorry). I am leaving to go over there in a couple weeks for 2 wonderful weeks. Every time I go over there I act just like you said and never have I had a problem, might not get as many waves as home, but I go over there expecting just that and that is fine. Dawn Patrol is the way to go. People go over there for “the season” and do not respect the land, the people, the environment, and the beach not all people but enough to piss off the locals and I can not blame them. I used to go to watch the U.S. Open at Huntington and get so pissed off at all the idiots at the way they acted towards people, the beach and everything. Can’t blame them for giving the guy what he deserved ( although a little severe) but none the less he deserved it. Talk to you soon!!

                    Scott

What are all you guys Rodney Dangerfield addicts??

nothing but post after post talking about respect!

Respect is a two way street.

No one talks about the Hawaiians coming over to California

and needing to show respect…why???

Because we are not violent!

and when shit happens someone will usually get sounded out

and its much more low level, not institutionalized surf society violence.

Hawaii’s #1 export to the Mainland is Hawaiian’s looking for jobs.

They come over here , they get treated equally ,with respect.

We dont demand they show us respect!

There are no articles showing outsiders(other US citizens) to

show us the respect we deserve.

Yeah I’ll say it, there is something wrong over there

and there is something right about things here!

There is more aloha here in alot more ways than many of

you suspect.

I’m from Southern Calif, but

I grew up in Wahiawa.

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The Kauai conections is all part of the corporate surf culture trying to protect their riders at spots like Pipe. There on the corporate payroll to do just that, kick the shit out of guys that get in the way of the team riders. They hang out in the Volcom, or Quick Silver house watching Pipe, waiting for violations in surf protocol. It can work against the team guys too, I heard that some team guy insulted one of the “protectors” and wouldn’t apologize. The “protector” wanted a new board for pain and suffering inflicted by the verbal abuse of the young p

Perhaps the way to be is to be rich and live like a fighter jet and poop out surfboard or cash “flares” to distract the “defense rockets”. I guess there is no limit to what some people will do for money. How very sad. And the corporate urinal cakes who pay the money are worse than the ones who take it.

Ever seen a Mac10 drive by?

The Cali folks can attest…

It won’t be the culprit that gets capped…

It’ll be all those “innocent bystanders” standing around with their video cameras that’ll make’ the brudda moke will mostly be untouched cuz he’ll be fast enough to duck. It’ll be the women. kids, tourists that will pay the ultimate price…

Imagine what security and the surf contest scene will like after that…

This can happen anywhere not just in Hawaii. It’s already happening in Rio/Brazil, Central Am, and Indo. Tourists caught in the Fiji and Tahiti riots can relate as well.

I got caught in the contest riot Huntington way back when remember that one folks…

Violence always begats violence.

Todays drugs of choice, ice, meth, and steroids etc don’t help the situation either.

Maybe the reason why we swaylockers are inherently mellow is that we all inhaled too much resin/acetone fumes in our day. Paint/Glue sniffers were alway zoned out compared to the speed freaks.

Well I would not say that we are not violent, some times we are. Do you remember just for one, is the incedent that happened I think it was down at Blacks with the father and son who got rocks thrown at them and one of them ended up in the hospital, all because of waves. It might have been Lunada Bay it was about a year or two a go There is some truth to what you said. But do you think it could be the way we were raised as kids and the way we raise our kids. Now I am not saying they raise their children wrong or vice versa. To each his own. I do know this, they do in my opinion respect their beach, environment, land and heritage more than people over here. Think about it, next time you are at the beach hanging out ( not for the next few days with the weather we are having), look around is there more trash on the beach here or there ? So take the trash, the shitheads that come over and act stupid, the crowded line ups with half the people who do not live there, and everything else, it would tweak me a little bit also. Not to mention all the added traffic, my buddy called me a few days a go and said he was stuck in traffic for half an hour from Haleiwa to his house up in Pupukea. All because Laneaka ( again if I mis-spelled that one sorry) was 3 feet and people had to drive slow to look. Well now that I think about that one, I must admit I contribute to that one sometimes, but I do try to pull off into the dirt. But in the end we all love the ocean and love to surf.