A noserider is pretty much the exact opposite of a pig.
Cleanlines has opened up a huge resource for people to view. They’re are over 80 videos posted by the Surfing Heritage and Culture Center. I am sure people can find a few gems in their for there education 
(there, their, they’re haha)
Haha - look at the word “dumb” - once meant mute, speechless. But it’s been used incorrectly to mean foolish or unintelligent for so long, that now that is considered a valid secondary definition.
Another example the noun produce (as in fruit or vegetables) once pronounced correctly as prah-duce, but so many people mispronounce it with a long o sound that has now become an acceptable alternative pronunciation according to most dictionaries.
Ah yes Barry…this is a classic pig with the wide point back and the pulled in nose. It probably has a rolled bottom and 50/50 rails. Some were pinched and some were narrow. In my opinion if you change the shape by adding concaves,tucked under modern rails and other such things it is no longer a Pig.
Jim Phillips shapes great pigs.Lots of pics on his website.
Now about those Fish…where is MagicMan?(Steve Brom) He is the ultimate authority on these in my opinion.
Here is 9’6" pig I just shaped
I’m ab little less strict on how I define a board. I except a name like a Quad Fish as long as the other parts of the board are in a Fish style Board if the tail is pulled i to much then it becomes a swallowtail quad.
For Pigs there is the classic pig and then there are pig style boards. One of my favorite boards from around 1995 was a Pig Template two one fin set 8’8" Not a pure Pig by any means but a board designed with the same concept in mind of the original Pigs . A Board that was designed to be surfed off the tail The Weber Pig of the 1970s ,was also a look back at the earlier Pig. IMHO The Weber Pig was about 30 years ahead of it’s time. In The age of wide point forward lightening bolt style boards The Weber pig looked awkward and counter to what was considered performance surfing at that time.
I would like to see someone pull a template off the Old weber pig and make a modern board with that outline.
I would like to see someone pull a template off the Old weber pig and make a modern board with that outline.
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Didn’t take a template off an old Weber, but modified a double winged squash with a square nose and this is what came out. Reminded me of the Weber Pig, but I think this is probably a little narrower. 5’-10", 15" nose and 14" tail, 21" wide at the widepoint.
So far so good!
For the record…the Weber Pig I had might be the worst board I ever owned. It may have been because it was too damn short (5’8"). But I still remember it as a piece of shit. My next board was a custom from Tom Overlin. 6’8" swallowtail.
The Pig was the last off the rack board I’ve ever owned.
been at this a long time now and to me a “pig” is simply a board with the wide point behind center. Also the board will turn best from behind that wide point.
A “fish” is a Lis’ ism IMO the curve is continous in outline, rocker should be small with particular attention to entry rocker.
me’s just silly enought to combine the 2. LOL & HAaaaaaaaaaa
Pretty much. That’s why many folks saw the similarity when the thruster first appeared. What’s old is new.
What’s old is new.
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SammyA you are so right!
Here’s one me thinks U could dig.
A “few” years ago my boy brings in his favorite board ( buckled) and wanted me to shape a “relica”, the board a “surftech” CI “Flyer” the 1st version BTW.
Once me started the template me’s started thinkin’ “bump” astonished (as usual) Velzy did it first, whats next the banjo?
PS Please pardon my grammar, me just dislike ego’s
Keep wet my freind…
Best lookin’ “mini pig” me’s seen…
Your “flyin’ pig” is gettin’ in line, sweet looking board
Sometime before 2004, maybe as early as 2000, I saw a board called da Slippah at George and Keoni Downing’s shop. Something about it grabbed my eye, and after talking to Keoni about the design I called my brother and told him I think this was a board worth checking out. These boards had a lot of similarities to the McCoy Nugget, but I didn’t know much about those back then.
I ended up buying a 6’ slippah even though Keone told me to get a 6’2", and I really liked it. My brother had Keoni make him a custom 6’8" that I ended up riding quite a bit. The 6’ board worked great, but most of the guys surfing Courts were riding longboards, so it was hard to get waves. When you got one, the board would be all over the wave because it was so loose and fast. I started using my brother’s slippah as replacement to a fun/long board because it paddled so well, but when I stepped up to the nose the board would bog because it had a lot of roll under the nose. The boards were meant to be ridden short and you just stay on the tail of the board and carve waves up. It wasn’t meant to be a long board replacement.
I tried to get Keone to make me a 6’4" with a flat bottom under the nose, but he didn’t want to do it at that time. That’s when I started making boards again, about the end of 2004. He has since made another version with a slighly more pointed nose and a flat bottom.
I can say that the low hips with a nice round tail and multiple fins makes the board really responsive, really loose. Something about having the wide point below the midpoint and that rounded tail that makes the board turn really well. Unlike the original Slippah and McCoy Nugget with the rolled nose (boat nose?) the flat bottom lets you step forward without losing speed. This is the modern Pig and it works.
This is what I call a modified thruster or quad fish with fifth fin and modified Bonzer options. 6’6"
Subtle double concave last third through the fin cluster out the tail. With a set of MR7’s can also be a twin fin.
This isn’t my board, but this is the same thing I have. I consider this the modern fish.
I also have this model, Griffin calls it the Modfish, but I like the original better.
@Mitch damn buddy the rocker is kick ass. Ah da rest is too!
@sharkcountry, U must be on the pulse, GG me loves were he’s goin’.
Got a mini sims buster waiting look familiar ?
… Aloha
OPS that looks interesting. Low hips and fangs.
I never understood how the mini simmons could be a good board with such a wide tail and parallel outline. I think the guys pulling in the tail with curves are going in the right direction, but I also think the fish works really well, so why not stay with that formula. I like the way the long straighter tail outline and the wide point way up gives the fish so much drive. Greg’s 5 fin adds so much more hold but also adds acceleration out of the turns. The fin setup looks weird but it works.
I like the way a pig style board turns really easily, but I also like the way a fish has so much drive and acceleration. I wish there were more days when I could paddle out a tiny board and get more than a handful of waves. So many people in the water these days.
Didn’t take a template off an old Weber, but modified a double winged squash with a square nose and this is what came out. Reminded me of the Weber Pig, but I think this is probably a little narrower. 5’-10", 15" nose and 14" tail, 21" wide at the widepoint.
So far so good!
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I really llike the looks of that Board. great action shot as well.
have heard more then just a few say the same thing about the Weber Pig . Since surfing is such a subjective sport. I could be that since the Weber Pig came out in a time when we were all collectivly surfing Pipeline on our pipe inpired Boards. Never mind that in reality we were surfing sloppy NJ beach breaks or off of some Jetty in Florida. I do Knew that one of my friends had a Weber Pig and he loved it. I also Know that when I first brought over a couple of eggish style boards and a Fish to my Shop in NJ they were not well excepted that first summer.
Does it taste like Bacon?