I called and confirmed that White Hot Foam (a division of Prowall) is now defunct.
U.S. Blanks offers a full line of high grade EPS foam as do other sources depending upon the area you live in. USB bought Austin Foam sometime back. They can cut from block using their catalog blanks, and also have some preformed blanks that are available. Visit their website for more information.
Hey Fellas, They never really got the whole thing going. They have the manufacturing of billets down, located in Az. but never got the blank side going. If you remember, the crew from laboratories of lower technology scored many blanks at a discount. The warehouse is in Oxnard Ca. and is a building materials yard. They had a stock of foam pre-cut or in billet form and were bought out very early in the process, so they liquidated the inventory on hand. I scored a 2# billet 16 feet long by 3 feet wide by 18 inches thick for $40.00! Don’t know if there is any left in the warehouse, but Steve Padilla is the guy to talk to. He’s very cool and easy to deal with. He helps run Great Pacific Building Materials on Lombard St. in Oxnard. They still have access to the billets from Az. because they use it in building as well. Just to clarify.
S’Ding I’ll check with Steve. It may be all gone by now. This happened a couple of months ago. I’m planning at least one lay down paddle board. Haven’t got to it yet. Got lots of good advice from Spencer and his build thread for the Catalina Classic. Thanks for the generous offer. It ain’t easy moving that mother by yourself! Almost cracked an egg moving it into the garage.
t........... yes, they had a final sale of inventory last month..... Daron Story had called me to see if I wanted to grab anything. When I called and emailed I kept getting a "not available recording" so I finally just confirmed this with the Great Western/Prowall office person.
The "Surf Specific" stuff they were doing shapes really well and they were well stocked. "SS" involved a secondary process that made it crisper and wasn't the same stuff as standard builder's grade EPS. I guess it just didn't turn over enough for a big comany like that to bother with it. We had discussed my designing some new blank designs for them, but such is life.
Jeff Holtby gave me the low down on their material and capabilities at USB, and their delivery is very reliable. They have some preformed blanks designed by Yater, and the ability to cut from block any of the blanks currently in their catalogue. They have very reliable delivery, so this becomes a very viable option for many builders. I have no doubt they are (or have the ability) to stock an East Coast distributor. Of course there are other options like Segway if that is your preference. Somebody mentioned that Insulfoam can produce a better grade EPS for surfboard production, but I haven't done anyhing with them since the 80's windsurfing boom.
The EPS makes total sense to me for the vac baggers and SUP builders, just as I found it did for slalom sailboards..... but you still have DIY guys out there buying crap EPS from Lowe's or Home Depot or wherever too. IMHO, I just don't see why someone would want to build a big heavy SUP out of PUPE. Don't get me wrong, the guys at USB and Surfblanks are doing incredible new stuff that I use and swear by...... I just don't see it for behemoth designs.
The age old negative for EPS is water invasion, for PUPE it's denting.
Funny business this industry. As it stands, I've still got a couple hundred EPS blanks from Surfding's downsizing a couple years ago. I'm reseaching and experimenting with ways to shape, then apply a material that will penetrate, then expand while sealing the EPS air space/fusion to prevent water from being drawn in when dinged. Surf Tech has got the EPS as shown on their You Tube "does your foam suck"? clip..... I'm seeking to do that.
Yeah S’Ding, great deal. S. Kellog is here and have bought Walker blanks off him a while ago at his older shop on Front St. Good guy. The Spencer I referred to is another guy on this site and made/paddled a board in the last race from Catalina. Also a very nice guy and incredibly helpful.
ps. You might be able to go straight to Prowall for billets. DS., I didn’t miss the inference…good one.
This is a portion of the foam I p/u from Surfding for around 8 cents on the dollar. He got one of my Clark Hitachi's outta the deal as he buffed me out with a lot of foam, milled stringers, and other goodies. My wife isn't too happy my "new warehouse" includes our cabana by the pool.
Dead that Clark F30 is like brand new after Jeff at US Blanks tuned it up with new brushes and blades.
Better than a Skil 100 and way more powerful. However they are so hard to come by.
The foam you scored for $0.08 on the dollar was a good score I wish I had the storage I once had before down sizing I was able to write it off on my taxable income so you got a good deal and I came out OK in the end. I did make some really light boards with that foam. I think that stuff was 1.7 density?
Sorry if I upset your wife! Looks like you need to crank out a bunch of boards and clear out your Cabana. My garage including my storage unit is full of woodworking equipment. Hard to let things go.