BTW, if you are going with an EPS blank, Fiberglass hawaii had some on sale for $30 each. My take: 6-5 x 15" X 24" x 16 1/2" x 3 3/8". I love quads on wide tails but that's me.
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BTW, if you are going with an EPS blank, Fiberglass hawaii had some on sale for $30 each. My take: 6-5 x 15" X 24" x 16 1/2" x 3 3/8". I love quads on wide tails but that's me.
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At 83kg and 5'9 im not huge, but i love foam. 22'' wide doesnt bother me at all, and would go wider on a simms. I think wide is fine, as long as you have the curve through the tail and some thickness, go for it.
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All these little guys telling you what size you should ride!!! =-)
Although I'm not quite your size, I'm two inches taller but 35 pounds lighter, I've got a pretty good understanding of what works for bigger guys. If you purely scale up a little guy board made for a 160 pound surfer vs. 240 pound surfer you would need to increase the board by 50%. It doesn't quite work like that because the wave size would have to increase by 50% also to keep it all relative.
That being said, bigger guys just aren't as nimble as the little ones. Work with your advantage, don't try to chase their advantage. Where they can do those "thwack wack" turns, as I heard Laird call them, you'll win every time on smoothness and power.
I have no problem slapping around a 7'-0" in the right conditions. It won't be as nimble as a the little guy, but we can compensate with grace and style.
Try a 7'-0" x 21" with a 16" wide tail. Forget all the flex talk for this one. You've probably got enough mass to bend steel, so make it thick. Three inches in the middle.
Again, forget the thin foiled nose. Hide some foam up there to with an old school beaked nose.
If you want to loosen it up, add some wings at 12" up. That will leave you with the same rail hold as a 6'-0" board, so you can slide the tail a little.
You're in Hawaii? No wetsuit to compensate for. Higher salinity to float you a little higher.
Anyway, that's my take on it.
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hey everysurfer, thanks for the tip bro, but you just described my current board to exacting detail. same length, width, thickness, tail everything! and im still pretty nimble you know! especially.in decent waves but youre totally right. ill never surf like a little guy which sorta sucks but ive accepted it.
anyway what im loiokin to do, since i feel limited by ythe current 7'0"x21"x3" id like to go 6" or so shorter to the 6'6" range. but wider out to 24". 3 3/8" thick but much thinner rails with a domed or crowned deck. a slight single concave with a good amount of vee off the tail. a nice wide squash tail im thinkin. a low entry rocker. the five fin setup but more than likely will ride it as a thruster. ive not yet ridden any other fin configuration that can touch the thruster. ridden right, i feel like im actually accelerating out of turns with more speed than i came in to it with.
the beaked nose is a great idea to hide some volume forward, as well as the slight bump. my first good board was a bump-squash 6'2" like 26 years ago! ha!
so anyways, what are your thoughts on the bioard ive just described?
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BTW, if you are going with an EPS blank, Fiberglass hawaii had some on sale for $30 each. My take: 6-5 x 15" X 24" x 16 1/2" x 3 3/8". I love quads on wide tails but that's me.
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mahalo uncle d! gonna stop in there tommorow! i was looking on us blanks web site and didnt see anything quite wide enough in around the length, thickness i need. wait.... EPS? is that the super floaty one? i dunno, every epoxy ive ridden felt funny, dead and too floaty. is that EPS? sorry, i dont know a whole lot when it comes to shaping/design/glassing and materials etc.
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You might want to consider talking to shaper Ben Aipa. I'm sure he can fix you up with something that would work for you. He may be kind of pricey though. You might also want to check out the dimensions of his Big Boy Stinger models on the Boardworks website as a point of reference.
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foamdust thanks yeah boss! but im guessing ben is way out of my price range. ill pay between $350-$380 from my guy. a totally fair deal considering the cost of the blank and the glasser mahalo!.
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I forgot to mention fins. Slip a couple of FCS Occy's in fiberglass in there to give you some more speed and hold. Some FG-7 if you want to be a little looser.
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hey everysurfer! ive got a set of the fg-7's and a set of the pg-7's. havent tried the occys yet but been wanting too. thanks for the heads up!
''every epoxy ive ridden felt funny, dead and too floaty. is that EPS? ‘’
All the boards in those videos of “Butter” are EPS/Epoxy.
When built right they work unreal for bigger guys.
In 1971 I made a 7' 0'' x 23'' to a 10.5'' wide sq tail, for a friend on Oahu. 3.5'' thick, domed deck, to somewhat thin low rails. Single fin with sides. He rode Makaha, Swabbies, Yokahama, and Sunset up to 8 foot hawaiian, without any problems. That was 40 years ago! The only thing I'd do different today is to install my close paired twin fin set up. You're pointed in the right direction, just don't go too short. I'm 6'0'' x 230 pounds, and I'm considering making a 7'2'' x 23'' x 3.5'' thick board for me, for this summer.
I’ll be anticipating a build thread on that one.
Something like this…
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Something like this...........
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Very similar, but with a more pointed nose.
I got a new one showing up SOON get yours built and bring it to the end of the street, you know where, and we’ll have some fun.
…hello Makakilo,
if you do not like eggs, funs, whatever
if you wanna stay the closest to an STD shortboard
if you wanna go 6" shorter, etc
If you wanna float but have kind of action
do not look any further man
Lot of info right now.
I still maintain what I said in previous comment
go with a rocket; that planshape will be the closer to an STD board you can have.
That is not retro
how they look? similar of what Jesus posted.
what dims?
As Everysurfer say, and others too, they are right but in the numbers you wants to have
go with the numbers that I told you before
you not get dissapointed if you look some action on the wave
man, there s power in Hawaii, so you have a % of thing solutionated.
Ace,
Do you remember the orange and clear Surf Systems board that was in the collection at the shop on Newport Ave? That was the board. I made that board for Doc White when he lived at Maile Point, west side. When he came back to the mainland, several years later, he brought the board with him.
Edit: Say hello to Mouse for me He does the sport proud!
Reverb is right. Jesus has the best outline for what your looking for.
I was just thinking what would be best for you base on your frame.
As far as what you want go with Reverb.
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Something like this...........
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ace, sorry but no sir. absolutely nothing like that. appreciate the info but gonna order something much more along the lines of a modern progressive shortboard scaled up. i think you guys may have the wrong idea about me. im no begginer, been at it 28 yrs.and i like to surf vertically. heavy on my back foot. this board looks great for someone interested in trimming along and surfing more up on their front foot. certainly a fun board to have if i had cash to burn. mahalo my friend!.
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...hello Makakilo,
if you do not like eggs, funs, whatever
if you wanna stay the closest to an STD shortboard
if you wanna go 6" shorter, etc
If you wanna float but have kind of action
do not look any further man
Lot of info right now.
I still maintain what I said in previous comment
go with a rocket; that planshape will be the closer to an STD board you can have.
That is not retro
how they look? similar of what Jesus posted.
what dims?
As Everysurfer say, and others too, they are right but in the numbers you wants to have
go with the numbers that I told you before
you not get dissapointed if you look some action on the wave
man, there s power in Hawaii, so you have a % of thing solutionated.
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thanks reverb. i guess no one caught on to my little rhyme session? oh well.
Im building wider thicker boards for river surfing in Colorado. I recently made it out to Socal and got to try a couple of the shapes out in the ocean. I am 5'8" 155lbs so these boards were a bit oversided for me in the ocean. But they turn a small non rideable rive wave into munich :o)
The board is 6'7"x 24 1/2"x 3 3/8"
I dint surf this board in cali i surfed a similar board that was 6'4"x 25"x 3 1/2". I am not the best surfer but, besides duck diving this board made me feel like id been surfing for years. In the pocket in 3 to 4' waves this board was super responsive and a blast to surf. The board i was riding had more curve to the outline so it was a little slow when you got to far away from the pocket. but a few pumps and i would ussally get right back in. I brought a NSP 7'6" fun board with and i thought the 6'4" paddled faster and caught waves better. Ill try to get some pictures posted here. I also built a version of a Simmons board that was very fast yet still pretty snappy.
The first board is the simmons style board. I followed the same principles just increased the rocker and gave the board more shape. then added the wings for fun. Also instead of the a concave out the tail i did a real slight V. So the bottom contour is convex entry hull to flat to slight V out the back. Really fast inside and out of the pocket. was a little stiffer than the hp riverboard but with a little more effort would still snap off the lip. 6'4"x 23"x 3".
