Yeah I think the blank cost $30 or more extra. I always wanted to try a blank with a reverse high density foam stringer, to see what that was like.
Did you ever own a stringerless??
oh yeah! it’s known as the bondo bullet! 7’ liddle extreme machine stringerless…it’s now retired.not only does the parabolic blank cost more , but the time it takes to do the rails with that wood in there adds to the cost as well. figure maybe a $100 bucks more for labor and blank…
With the advantages, the extra cost might be worth it, the HD foam on the rails might also be a great re-enforcement to a board.
Hey Jim,
Not quite sure… big old blank lying around the shop.
He mowed the heck out of it…
Kirk,
Thank you for the cutback advise. If I think about the ones that were really ugly, I was way high in the face…
Makes sense.
Klaus told me that a thinner stringer offers more flex when i asked him about a 7’2 hull he shaped that i saw down at Bu, it had a really thin one - maybe 1/8" ? - my 5’9 Pavel fish (which i haven’t surfed since baby jesus knows when) has a beautiful tapered stringer and i’m wondering if there are hulls out there that have been made with such lines??? i’m curious about the parabolic blanks. i’ve seen all kinds of stuff on surfysurfy.blogspot.com - sean ambrose boards seem to have that going on but a pic on the internet rarely if ever does anything true justice … anyone ever seen or ridden something tapered?
Sorry for the teaser pics, but I haven’t picked up the board from Leslie (Fatty) yet. It’s a 6’8, shaped from 2lb EPS. I’ll post up some rail/rocker/s-deck shots this weekend as soon as I pry it out of her grubby mitts.
This board just totally knocked my socks off.
I’ve read the descriptions, seen the videos and felt like a hull was what I was looking for…
and then I managed to get one under my feet and it all clicked…“wait, I made BOTH of those sections?!”
Do all shapers email you a few weeks later to check in for questions or comments or is Spencer Kellog just that classy?
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8’6" x 17" x 23" x 15" x 3 5/16" vee bottom
Most shapers I’ve dealt with encourage feedback to let them know how the board works (Jon Wegener, Mike Zippi, Jim Phillips, Greg Liddle, Specer Kellogg). Since I usually report back pretty quick after the first few sessions, I don’t know if they would all check back with me on their own if I didn’t give them a report. That’s cool though that Spence does.
speaking of making sections – i recently got back onto my fish after almost a year of exclusively riding my point breaker. I got a wave alone this week for about an hour, only about shoulder high , but once i got the fish dialed in it was a lot of fun … for sure my style has changed with the hull. in the last coupla weeks i’ve been riding some breaks that to me weren’t so hull freindly… the fish being just a bit more versatile. it’s been said here before … but the main difference was pushing off a bottom turn, the fish didn’t fly out like the hull does… but could give a rather more vertical turn, then using height for speed… make sections. it’s good to mix it up time to time i guess.
Hulls aren’t made for all types of waves.
yup.
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Klaus told me that a thinner stringer offers more flex when i asked him about a 7’2 hull he shaped that i saw down at Bu, it had a really thin one - maybe 1/8" ? - my 5’9 Pavel fish (which i haven’t surfed since baby jesus knows when) has a beautiful tapered stringer and i’m wondering if there are hulls out there that have been made with such lines??? i’m curious about the parabolic blanks. i’ve seen all kinds of stuff on surfysurfy.blogspot.com - sean ambrose boards seem to have that going on but a pic on the internet rarely if ever does anything true justice … anyone ever seen or ridden something tapered?
Ive done a butt-load of tapered stringer hulls in the last year, alot of them I think are in this thread burried somewhere…ive gotten great feedback on all of them,.
I just did one that I took down to the gathering at malibu the other day that did a bit of tapering…not just to the tail though 
heres a couple:
IMO tapered stringers dont flex enough for anyone to really notice, are you really gonna feel a 1/8 to a 1/4 of flex. They sure look cool though.
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IMO tapered stringers dont flex enough for anyone to really notice, are you really gonna feel a 1/8 to a 1/4 of flex. They sure look cool though.
that was my conclusion as well.
tapered stringers work great for higher impact surfing, snaps and hitting sections gets them going really well…but I cant feel them go on a small wave or just going down the line.
glass flextails are the best tail flex ive felt so far, stringerless w/one layer of 6oz on the deck and one 4oz on bottom is the next best, and works well as a percussion instrument while sitting in the lineup
I was over at PJD’s house this afternoon (only 1 block away) and he had all his boards out. Interesting quiver of Liddles. Paul has been riding Liddles exclusively since the very early 70’s.
My favorite (and Paul’s too) is this 7’6" made in 2001 for Paul’s 50th birthday. The hull in the middle of the board is much deeper than GL’s current boards. The rail is like a true 50/50 instead of 60/40 or even 70/30. The deck and bottom are almost like mirror images in the front/middle of the board and then goes down in the tail. Very beautiful outline nose and tail.
Thanks Paul! Can’t wait to try that 7’6" out.
what’s the foil like on that big guy tri looking dealio?
That’s a good question. I forgot to take note of that. It wasn’t quite as radical of s-deck if I remember but still had some. I think the tail had to be thicker due to the rear box being so far back.
The tri fin was a board that GL made for me a few years into the tri fin scene. I went to him wanting a tri finned hull, that can be ridden with front foot push from the middle, with a slightly tracking off the bottom feel, which was in contrast to the snapping springy pop turn of his traditional single flex fins. He positioned the fins parallel to the stringer, which seemed to give it that “neutral” feel, and had the rails begin their turned down decent toward the tail, further forward.
The board has incredible glide and subtle response to weighting and unweighting. I rode it for a few months, exclusively, and then hung it up in favor of the 8’0" (with the diagonal logo).
should have gotten a few waves in on that 8’0 when i had the chance
aaaaaaaaaah well…next time
beautiful quiver PJD!
let me guess-the bright, shiney one on far right is the third “monster smoothie” standing proud at 8’7"…