I just looked back a few posts and realized Im pimpin stuff, Im just trying to let people know where to get the goods, if this bugs anybody, let me know.
OMG, that’s funny. turn up the sound to the song “Shaft”. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZzBrxj-Gjo It’s all good!
Why parabolic?
When the board is loaded into a turn I’m interested in the whole rail line flexing, which does happen to some degree on any board but the perimeter stringer blanks flex more, with tension and positive return.
D.R.
Nice DR!
Cool looking stick.
Hey howabout high density foam only for perimter stringers, any strength gain from that?
8’ Marc Andreini Stringerless Vaquero. The first brand new board I’ve got in years. Stoked!
Beautiful looking board, Steiny. Congrats! I’m very interested to hear how it feels under foot.
KP,
Saf has found the picture of the SC protest guy that you requested.
Steiny, Marc says thats a copy of our balsas , your gonna dig it . He called while I was lookin at the pics and craked up, he said I just left Steinys 15 min ago and he already posted pics?
yup- obsessed! its like that. regards to you kirk.
Mcmalibu,
If by strength you mean tension…. resistance and return, there may be some gain in high density perimeter bands over a stringerless blank but nothing like perimeter wood.
For hulls the problem with all foam or stringerless boards is they need to be made from large blanks to cut past the natural rockers that are in the mold. A high density band would be no different. It’s been tough getting these perimeter stringer blanks to hold my rocker call out, without a center stringer the blanks want to return to their natural rocker and over take the rockers that are glued up with the perimeter stringers. Real tension at play.
D.R.
Saf has found the picture of the SC protest guy that you requested.
I used to have a 7’6" wing pin semi-gun shaped by John Scott (the SC contest protest guy). A friend of mine from school used to get boards shaped by him every year. My friend’s dad is a longtime friend of John Scott’s.
I was checking out Mandala surfboards, and noticed he was making stubbies/hulls – says he personally has been riding them a lot lately. However when i read about the hulls he makes, he says his hulls have a concave running through them.
See for yourself: http://www.mandalacustomshapes.com/stubbies.shtml#
wouldn’t this defeat the purpose of the rolled bottom/hull??
Wow…
Looks beautiful Steiny, congratulations.
What are the dimensions of that thing?
I’d have to say yes. The concave may harken back to Simmon’s twin fin (late 1940’s). A hull that stays true to the design keeps the bottom contours with the belly front to flat in the tail. There have been some minor “V” added before or after the fin occasionally but that does give a different feel to the ride.
He calls 'em stubbies, which is accurate, but this description throws me:
"-Tri-plane hull foundation.
- Single-concave into double-concave vee (spiral vee.) "
All those convex (tri-plane hull) and concave surfaces can’t be on the same board?
steiny…sweet board…so we’ll see you at indicator
next time on it? conditions permitting…
many-he does say “hull inspired, but not a hull”
and hints that he will be making “true” hull soon…
i dunno “inspired” can lead to good and bad…
right?
Manny’s design is handed down from Andreini, so the design does have hull beginnings/attributes for sure.
I saw a few of his first ones, as well as the board that Marc made for him to ride (the one that inspired him to make them w/marc’s blessing), its a pretty cool shape but I wouldnt call it a hull; more like a stubbby disc that uses some hull design characteristics to go 
it’s great to see all this hull interest. two guys who i wish would post some of their work-past and present- are two i’ve mentioned before-two who have been building and riding hulls for 35 plus years in total obscurity-one around my neck of the woods(ventucky) and another in alaska: tony masiel and tim bowler… flex tails, the bottom half, keels and more…
I agree Matt! I’ve been thinking about Tony’s flextails that I see him with at the Point and the Bowler flex tail in Kirk’s garage for a couple of years now… Does Tony’s boy ever ride one? I’ve seen him surf super well a few times but it looks like he’s on a fish or stubbie rather than a hull.
Another I’d like to see is Rich Pavel’s hulls. I know he was working with Gamboa off and on a few years ago and they made a few.
Oh yeah describe the “bottom half” again. Is it similar to the 7’5" KJ hull of yours that I got from Pierpont Scott? If so, that board is super fun. It flies… turns are a little sketchy though (the tail gets drifty sometimes cause the fin is sooo far forward but it feels too good to scoot it back). It’s also the board I ride finless sometimes.
I was about to ask why we don’t hear more about Pavel, since JG seems was riding a pavel hull in Sprout – that was pre-TSJ article. what he just made a hull for Gamboa?
The red singlefin Devon Howard was riding in One California Day was pretty sweet – not a hull apparently, but his rides were nice and smooth, and carvey. they way the board would sink into bottom turns made me think maybe it was.
-J
but then on the other hand, a flexspoon has something akin to a parabolic stringer. ( except the two stringers don't meet in the tail )
A flexspoon is like a tuning fork, where the 2 free ends can flex somewhat independently, allowing considerable flex and TWIST.
Another PG hull. This one from 1974. Similar beautiful lines. Swooping curves. Again it all changes on a wave.
Lurking…after 20 minutes in the pool it is almost neutral buoyancy, finally settling
with tail on the bottom.