very trippy…with all that neutral buoyancy, I’d be worried about my killer spoon becoming sunken treasure!
gamboa had a liddle prior to pavel-or klaus…where do you think they got the template,etc, from?
i recall from sprout seeing gamboa walking down the beach with the hull underarm, and I noticed the rails and ‘spoony’ look to it… was a rich pavel. before i even knew what a hull was.
The story I’ve heard is that both Pavel and Klaus worked off the template from Steve K’s red board which Jimmy got his hands on at some time. Allegedly, this was one of Steve’s favorites. Does that sound right?
Thats correct Nico.
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The story I've heard is that both Pavel and Klaus worked off the template from Steve K's red board which Jimmy got his hands on at some time. Allegedly, this was one of Steve's favorites. Does that sound right?
Steve told me that it was replicated but never turned out quite the same. Even with the exact measurements taken and copied.
I have seen Gamboa ride a number of different hulls. To my eye, in the Sprout footage and the Cal. day footage, his boards are not tuned properly. Looks ok going forward but looks painful on the cutbacks!! One time live…watching him surf for an hour or so on the Pavel…it was much more fluid and my guess is he just happened to get the fin in the right place…or maybe the fin box was in the right place. Kirk…you may recall Jimmy saying something like…I just stick the fin all the way forward in the box.
Fin placement on round bottom boards (more so on the stubbies) is crucial. Had a friend who had a 9-0 Paul Gross board made. Did not like it and it ended up back on the rack in Spence’s old shop. Another friend saw it …bought it…tuned it…and later let the original owner ride it…needless to say he loved it and eventually after lots of begging and maybe a year or more he got it back. Now he wont part with it as I have been asking him to sell it to me for the last 10 or more years!!
If you don’t have the sensitivity or patience to tune your hulls…find someone who does…the results are more than worth the effort.
Rogelio
Hey Roger,
I agree with you on the footage of Jimmy on the hulls in Sprout and OCD. Especially in OCD, it seemed like the turns were forced; they didn’t seem to flow correctly. Knowing how well Jimmy can surf a hull, I was dissapointed with that footage. The turns in Sprout looked fun to me, almost on the cusp of being a layback at times… but again, not as fluid as they are in person when he’s got it dialed or even as fluid as his surfing was in the Seedling film.
If I didn’t know any better, I would wager that the hull Jimmy is riding in the seedling was the famous Steve K. red board.
Anyone know for sure?
Those couple of waves in Seedling are great… he gets the little cover up, comes out, leans into a nice drawn out cutback, brings it back up into the pocket and back into another cover up. I think someone mentioned it before, but his surfing on a log or fish draws many of the same lines.
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If you don’t have the sensitivity or patience to tune your hulls…find someone who does…the results are more than worth the effort.
Rogelio
Sorry don’t know how to use those “in reply to” thingys right…
Anyway,
It is truly a wonderful experience to work with your own equipment and tune it to the way feels right.
I have found that that one board feels really good and true to me;
then someone else feels it to be way off and only changing the fin the board is on fire for them.
Then you start talking about the board, the person, the conditions, the place…
Well…
after watching gamboa in the films, and once in person, in my observation-regardless of board, he has the fin too far up-hence the painful cutbacks,etc…why? possibly myth of further up loosens up the board. on hulls, it is the complete opposite. at some point he will, if he hasn’t aleady,learn to tune the fin/tail area in with the hull up front.it’s all about balance and sensitivity-it takes time to get it all figured out and balanced…
nick- a couple of things. tony’s son rides a stubbie-tri fin kind of thing tony made.yeah, he rips on it. second- on the klaus board in regards to tail drift. go to scott at foam,fins and fibergalss and get the fin i had made-it looks like the liddel narrow based fin, but has a diffrent, thicker, forward ,round foil to it. on that board i found the gl flex didn’t quite do it-knowing what i felt was missing, i put in one of my pg foiled stage 4 type fins.close to the gl narrow base template, but foiled different- thicker, rounded leading edge fairing back to flat-greenough like. that fin realy got the klaus roling without tail drift, which makes since as that board was a mesh of two different pg hulls…also, if scott has the fin i described, you will have to round off the leading edge as it is still made too knifey.the good news is the thicknes is there so it will only take a quick, minor paas or two with the file to round it off…
ain’t that the truth tho – i noticed that - JGs cutbacks looked like he couldn’t bring em around. even my kid whose not headlong into surf noticed it.
8’1" Andreini chambered balsa Vaquero, 22.5" and 3.5" thick, 18 lb. Made 2001, one of 5.
Stoked here too!
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8’1" Andreini chambered balsa Vaquero, 22.5" and 3.5" thick, 18 lb. Made 2001, one of 5.
Stoked here too!
Are you riding that board or is it a wall hanger?
Whoa! Rad!
Thats the sister to mine , Ive ridin that one 2 , thats why I ordered mine. One of my all time best boards.
Does the 18lb change the feel???
i’ve ridden kp’s and it feels like butter.the feel of the wood,somehow, along with weight comes together in a way that feels almost weightless. it feels really good is all i can say…
bythe way folks and hullaholics- special things to come from the hilbers/putnam/bojo camp…stay tuned…