“It usually opens to a few pages back of the most current.”
Same here when I click the arrow which is supposed to take you to the last post. Oh well… great pics and info in this thread.
don’t you dare!
Nooooooooo!
We gotta see how far this thread can go, we want multiple thousands of replies and millions of views…
was reminiscing about the old days with one of the Liddle crew, and the current interest in the Jaws board. Then we recalled the days of helicopters, black death, or the pocket hull—5’6 rockered 24 " wide hull for the sand bar at the corner. There were so many trials by the Liddle crew, its not surprising to me that these boards became specialized vehicles for what we call wave riding.
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Itchy , nice turn! gonna send Liddle the Jaws template and have him just do his thing, normal thickness and foil maybe some 7' to 7'6'' smoothie Jaws for us older hullers.
Kirk,
I might be interested in one of those. How different is the Jaws template from Greg’s current Dirt machine template (since it is one of Dirt’s boards)?
Thanks!
thinner, looks to be narrower in the tail, with a bit more sophisticated rocker than the red board,definitely more refined…
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not to be compared to Jaws, my 7-0 PB on a small day here. It does float my current 190 lb better than my 25 yr old 6-6 blade
I was going to comment that your turn looks a lot like Steve K’s turn in the color Jaws pic but only a mirror image.
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thinner, looks to be narrower in the tail, with a bit more sophisticated rocker than the red board,definitely more refined...
Thanks Matt.
I’m just wondering if GL made a board with the same template as Jaws how different it would be from his “Dirt” template. I haven’t really compared the two templates. I know the real Jaws board is thin and flat but that’s probably not exactly how Greg would make it. At least I know he likes a good S-deck.
Steve said his black and white checkered board has an a-symmetrical tail. A concept that is very appealing to me (although GL said he doesn’t want to try that - he recommended PG for that). Doesn’t it make complete sense though? You don’t want the same curve for your frontside bottom turn as you do for your backside cutback. You want a long, driving, committed bottom turn and a quicker, shorter turn for cutbacks. Boards don’t have to be mirror images.
it’s official - this fucking thing FLIES and passes other boards on a great wave - turns and redirects on a dime and is the go to from here in on days over 3 feet… SIIICKENING SPEED! today i hit a bottom turn that made so much noise it sounded like i was getting pitted - by the way Malibu was on friggin fire today, see you in the pacific bright and earls
pg made me a board that is the the same as that checkerd board…one of my favoite boards-really nice on cutbacks.unfortunatley i had it glassed with epoxy and it countinued to twist and shrink over time rendering the board useless…
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pg made me a board that is the the same as that checkerd board…one of my favoite boards-really nice on cutbacks.unfortunatley i had it glassed with epoxy and it countinued to twist and shrink over time rendering the board useless…
Did it have the a-symmetrical tail too? Do you remember the general dims?
nico sb – the piccy of SK and Jaws “closing in on next victim”?? i’d like to see that pic a little bigger. any chance you can email me the scan?
PM’d ya’.
yes- it did.exact template…i still have it…
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yes- it did.exact template....i still have it...
How would you describe the two different shapes of the tail?
i hit Mollusk today after some hours at El Bu (it was pretty damn good and of course REALLY REALLY crowded). i checked out the hand foiled SK fins at the shop. though they’re totally bitchen and have an awesome varied selection a cool hunsky is too steep for my budge - alas …anyway i snatched a GL Flex repro made by Fibre Glass Fin Co. and hit it with some sand paper, then dropped it into my KJ - the flex on that sucker is pretty damn forgiving, can’t wait to see how it goes in 9-10 hours from now! going to start moving the fin around, experiment a bit… thank you wonder bolt! - pulled my first full cutback into the foam today - El Siglo is fast in good waves!
the same…a tad longer on the inside rail,and a tad shorter and pulled on outside rail…
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the same...a tad longer on the inside rail,and a tad shorter and pulled on outside rail....
Ok. Thanks!
most pics of hulls underway are either PBer, Inbetweener, or smaller M3P types on mainland type wave. Liddle makes the Hawaiikine outline for juicer stuff, and outside of one or two pics of guys in reefy, powerful waves on his site (namely the one of some McCraney on a Tahitian reef pass), i haven’t seen pics in that type of surf.
any chance someone can put up some shots of hulls being ridden in some really juicy stuff? i know if ya had them they’d already be posted. Maybe KP can dig something up in his archives?
Some say hulls are not really ideal for bigger powerful surf. The addiction comes from the feedback received through the board from delicate lined up waves. In powerful waves, you don’t need those characteristics that make a hull go(and could in fact impede performance)…and so I think the associated feelings are somewhat lost in the excitement and rush of the bigger waves.
I have a 9-3 hull semi-gun that is for bigger surf and I really dig it…but trying to ride a stubbie type hull in big powerful North Shore type surf would be a challenge better left for the very experienced. I think most riders would opt for more user friendly equiptment.
BTW…I have surfed a few times on Kauai and many times on Oahu…only once have I seen a Liddle in the lineup. That was at Sunset and this guy had a old Liddle that he picked up and was trying.
Rogelio