Jim I did a number of asymmetrical tails but the templates were different about half or a third of the board, just doing the small part of tail isn’t going to do much IMO. Also Dirting the deck changes how the board rolls on the rail, not as easy on the everyday waves we ride. Steve made these boards from maybe from 70 to 80’s when we were surfing waves that were not as crowded.
Kirk,
I’m sure you’re right since you have the wisdom through experience but sometimes we just gotta know for sure by doing it ourselves. I’m guessing I probably won’t be able to tell the difference but I’m still gotta try it (changing the tail). I may end up Bondo-ing up a third of the rail.
I still think asymmetrical templates would be the way to go theoretically. Why would you want the same rail line for hard frontside bottom turning (to project down the line) as you would for cutting back (a tighter turn)? Especially with hulls where you are surfing off the whole rail rather than just the tail.
8’0" Frenchy from a Surfblanks America 8’8" Egg blank.
6’10" out of an Ice 9 8’4" with custom rocker
Nice!
Is that 8’0" the “Ocho Libre”?
I missed the part where the term “Dirting” was defined…
Dirting (dirt’ ng) vt. (slang from Steve “Dirt” Krajewski, Swaylocks.com), 1a to make Dirt-like, 1b to modify an object to resemble a creation by Steve Krajewski (aka Estaban Bojorquez) 2 to flatten the rocker and thin the rails and deck of a surfboard to resemble surfboards ridden by Steve Krajewski, especially those built by Greg Liddle between 1970 and 1985.
crayons, dirting, and Bondo, Oh My.
Lee, you hull guys are weird. But then you knew THAT, eh?
We revel in weirdness. How else could we justify riding a knifey edged, round, spudly single fins. Although I must admit, the use of “Dirtify” is pushing the weirdness boundary to new levels.
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Dirting (dirt’ ng) vt. (slang from Steve “Dirt” Krajewski, Swaylocks.com), 1a to make Dirt-like, 1b to modify an object to resemble a creation by Steve Krajewski (aka Estaban Bojorquez) 2 to flatten the rocker and thin the rails and deck of a surfboard to resemble surfboards ridden by Steve Krajewski, especially those built by Greg Liddle between 1970 and 1985.
Pretty awesome definition. Actually it is ultimately to “Greenough” the board so it has a more neutral bouyancy (i.e. doesn’t float) and easier to bury the rails and keep them engaged without wanting to pop back up (for those 30 yrd. bottom turns).
yes it is…
Congratulations Matt. You must be happy with the outcome.
Say hello to “SUTHO”, 6’3 x 22ish x 2 5/8ish Ice9 Single 6oz all around
Shaped, glassed and sanded (directionally) by Ryan Lovelace
For me.
May need to get something to soak up the drool.
Went really good today at 1st and I’m utterly stoked, stoked, stoked!
very much a PG influence in the way the board came out(which makes sense since PG and spence have worked together for years now…) spence did a real nice job…
can you contrast the ride on your new gem with a more traditional hull rocker profile?
this one seems more neutral and slightly accentuated.
el delfin blanco
the bottom is “platey” if that makes any sense. The idea was to keep it subtle and neutral with a centerpoint bleeding out to the thinnest rails possible. I wanted a midpoint of reference to control from trying to be center on the board. I was looking for balance and Ryan nailed it. If you were referring to an actual pic, I’d search the old hull pic threads for a comparison. I’ll try to take a larger photo of the rocker, I took that pic from Ryan’s blog. He could really elaborate on the design more than me, I have not the vocabulary.
One suggestion , move the fin way back before riding it .
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One suggestion , move the fin way back before riding it .
Kirk/Matt,
What do you think about a lot of guys now pushing the fin all the way forward in the box? One guy said he wanted it “as loose as possible”. Does forward placement equal “looseness” like is does with other (non-hull) single fins?
Just try and test for yourself to find the looseness you like. A couple of weeks ago had Mike Grossman (original Liddle crewmember) here for a few days looking at a new job and watched one cal day. We concluded that Jimmy G has fin too forward which is why his cutback is constrained.
Exactly. I never thought “fin all the way forward” was a good thing. Maybe on very few boards but I suspect some people think “fin all the way forward” is more “extreme” or “radical” or something but it doesn’t equate to better turning.